Re: midi instrument maps
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:19 am
Dave and ccherrett,
I've kept all the information from the Reaper forum, and as i get a bit more time i'll do some more tutorials. At the moment i'm trying to finish an album of classical elevator music, and get Parchment Studios up and running on line. (Which will include an information/education section for orchestral instruments, and as many links to good information for both orchestral music and its relevance in computer music, in linux, as i can).
Now if the clever fellows in the Linuxsampler team could build me a 26 hour day plugin, i'd be happy.
ccherrett, It's not that difficult to set up patches and banks for gig sample libraries in Lsampler. Do you have the gig format VSL cube, opus, or Pro Edition ?
I'm an admirer of the VSL project, and have been for quite some time. I say this a little sadly, but my linux setup is now too important, finetuned, and settled, to consider building a Win box, just for their new 64bit player and samples. I have Miroslav (old, but still good), Sonic Implants, and some self built gig files that have paid their way more than once, so if it ain't broke...
Fantasia is terrific for our particular needs, as it not only has the database from which to manage large sample collections, but the multi bank/patch component which enables chaps like you and I to lay out massive bank/patch libaries, in a managable and efficient format. The example I gave above is simple, but highly effective and fast in writing and recording orchestral work, including highly complex orchestrations, with that hairy monster, multi articulation, well handled.
I have my banks and patches laid out, as an example, as so:
bank 0 1st Violins. This primary 128 instrument set is prioritised as my most used gig files.
bank 1 2nd Violins Same here, and so on.....
When i've gone through the orchestra, assigning a bank for each instrument or section (and that includes seperate banks for Horn sect, and Horn solo, even if all 128 instrument slots or patches aren't used) i then start adding banks for lower priority instrument articulations and effects, i.e., violin FX, 23 violins, 4 cellos, etc...
I also have quite an extensive choir set, and these take 4 banks, being: Male choir, Female choir, Mixed choir, and Choir fx (including boys and girls choirs.)
Planning is everything i guess, and time spent evaulating actual use can make the 1 time, but lengthy process of mapping large instruments sets and libraries an easier one. I took my time, being careful to assign everything correctly, and ended up (at this stage) with 46 banks, over half of which are fairly full. (100 patches or more.) It took me 5 days full time to do this, so if that's an indicator for you of what to expect, and how much time to allocate, then good. It depends of course onthe size and complexity of the libraries you have. I typed out the entire template in easy to read sections by instrument/bank with named patches, and i have 22 pages of it on the wall in front of me as well as in a plastic sleeved folder, in case i don't remember where that 'hot' french horn sound is. Imho, it's worth doing this, especially if your library is fairly static once you've completed it. Time spent doing this well will pay dividends when the writing starts i can assure you.
You can also keep your money in your pocket
I'm a little busy at the moment, but i'll certainly help you if you get stuck, or have questions. If you'd like to get started, and we'll see where you're going from there.
I'm just about a complete novice at making vids, and at the moment simply don't have to the time to devote resource to learning. Maybe later on i'll get into this, but for now, we're on words and pics.
Regards to you both,
Alex.
I've kept all the information from the Reaper forum, and as i get a bit more time i'll do some more tutorials. At the moment i'm trying to finish an album of classical elevator music, and get Parchment Studios up and running on line. (Which will include an information/education section for orchestral instruments, and as many links to good information for both orchestral music and its relevance in computer music, in linux, as i can).
Now if the clever fellows in the Linuxsampler team could build me a 26 hour day plugin, i'd be happy.
ccherrett, It's not that difficult to set up patches and banks for gig sample libraries in Lsampler. Do you have the gig format VSL cube, opus, or Pro Edition ?
I'm an admirer of the VSL project, and have been for quite some time. I say this a little sadly, but my linux setup is now too important, finetuned, and settled, to consider building a Win box, just for their new 64bit player and samples. I have Miroslav (old, but still good), Sonic Implants, and some self built gig files that have paid their way more than once, so if it ain't broke...
Fantasia is terrific for our particular needs, as it not only has the database from which to manage large sample collections, but the multi bank/patch component which enables chaps like you and I to lay out massive bank/patch libaries, in a managable and efficient format. The example I gave above is simple, but highly effective and fast in writing and recording orchestral work, including highly complex orchestrations, with that hairy monster, multi articulation, well handled.
I have my banks and patches laid out, as an example, as so:
bank 0 1st Violins. This primary 128 instrument set is prioritised as my most used gig files.
bank 1 2nd Violins Same here, and so on.....
When i've gone through the orchestra, assigning a bank for each instrument or section (and that includes seperate banks for Horn sect, and Horn solo, even if all 128 instrument slots or patches aren't used) i then start adding banks for lower priority instrument articulations and effects, i.e., violin FX, 23 violins, 4 cellos, etc...
I also have quite an extensive choir set, and these take 4 banks, being: Male choir, Female choir, Mixed choir, and Choir fx (including boys and girls choirs.)
Planning is everything i guess, and time spent evaulating actual use can make the 1 time, but lengthy process of mapping large instruments sets and libraries an easier one. I took my time, being careful to assign everything correctly, and ended up (at this stage) with 46 banks, over half of which are fairly full. (100 patches or more.) It took me 5 days full time to do this, so if that's an indicator for you of what to expect, and how much time to allocate, then good. It depends of course onthe size and complexity of the libraries you have. I typed out the entire template in easy to read sections by instrument/bank with named patches, and i have 22 pages of it on the wall in front of me as well as in a plastic sleeved folder, in case i don't remember where that 'hot' french horn sound is. Imho, it's worth doing this, especially if your library is fairly static once you've completed it. Time spent doing this well will pay dividends when the writing starts i can assure you.
You can also keep your money in your pocket
I'm a little busy at the moment, but i'll certainly help you if you get stuck, or have questions. If you'd like to get started, and we'll see where you're going from there.
I'm just about a complete novice at making vids, and at the moment simply don't have to the time to devote resource to learning. Maybe later on i'll get into this, but for now, we're on words and pics.
Regards to you both,
Alex.